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求:特罗凯耐药后的治疗方案!!(妈妈2007年12月4日病逝!)

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发表于 2007-7-11 09:15:47 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
jimmy,thanks again![em17][em23][em23][em23]
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-11 13:48:56 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东深圳

谢谢jimmy提供的信息,只希望这些有用的信息能更早应用到国内的临床上来!

小路:有关注DCA吗?你现在身体感觉怎么样?我妈妈这几天明显感到气喘,咳嗽加重,痰也随之增多。每天的中药效果感觉不明显,喷雾治疗还是得每天进行。

对于使用DCA的准备工作已在进行之中,购买工作都已完成,只等所有药物到齐之后就正式开始,希望能有好的效果。

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发表于 2007-7-12 09:47:39 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 美国
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以下是引用amei在2007-7-11 8:33:07的发言:

强烈关注,什么时候能临床呢?另外不知道所说的四氢大麻酚的作用机理是不是和易瑞沙的作用机理有相似之处,易瑞沙耐药后是否可以作为一种选择呢?另外他是否可以通过血脑屏障,对脑转移有没有治疗作用呢?期待知道更多信息的病友能够接着报道。

1)我从网上查到,大麻酚是受 严格控制的药物(与毒品有关),所以 应是早已用于临床了,可能和吗啡类药物差不多。???
2)应该可用于易瑞沙耐药后的选择,人们发现大麻酚可用于治疗肺癌起因于,科学家首先发现大麻焦油中,导致肺癌的物质比烟中多50%,因此美国 FDA想发出大麻导致肺癌的警告,搞了个调查统计,但结果大出意外,长期抽大麻的人没有一人得肺癌。结果,人们反过来研究大麻,发现大麻是抗癌的。

现在只是不知用量应是多少。

下面附录华盛顿邮报关于那次调查统计的报道:

Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection

By Marc Kaufman
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 26, 2006; A03

The largest study of its kind has unexpectedly concluded that smoking marijuana, even regularly and heavily, does not lead to lung cancer.

The new findings "were against our expectations," said Donald Tashkin of the University of California at Los Angeles, a pulmonologist who has studied marijuana for 30 years.

"We hypothesized that there would be a positive association between marijuana use and lung cancer, and that the association would be more positive with heavier use," he said. "What we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect."

Federal health and drug enforcement officials have widely used Tashkin's previous work on marijuana to make the case that the drug is dangerous. Tashkin said that while he still believes marijuana is potentially harmful, its cancer-causing effects appear to be of less concern than previously thought.

Earlier work established that marijuana does contain cancer-causing chemicals as potentially harmful as those in tobacco, he said. However, marijuana also contains the chemical THC, which he said may kill aging cells and keep them from becoming cancerous.

Tashkin's study, funded by the National Institutes of Health's National Institute on Drug Abuse, involved 1,200 people in Los Angeles who had lung, neck or head cancer and an additional 1,040 people without cancer matched by age, sex and neighborhood.

They were all asked about their lifetime use of marijuana, tobacco and alcohol. The heaviest marijuana smokers had lighted up more than 22,000 times, while moderately heavy usage was defined as smoking 11,000 to 22,000 marijuana cigarettes. Tashkin found that even the very heavy marijuana smokers showed no increased incidence of the three cancers studied.

"This is the largest case-control study ever done, and everyone had to fill out a very extensive questionnaire about marijuana use," he said. "Bias can creep into any research, but we controlled for as many confounding factors as we could, and so I believe these results have real meaning."

Tashkin's group at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA had hypothesized that marijuana would raise the risk of cancer on the basis of earlier small human studies, lab studies of animals, and the fact that marijuana users inhale more deeply and generally hold smoke in their lungs longer than tobacco smokers -- exposing them to the dangerous chemicals for a longer time. In addition, Tashkin said, previous studies found that marijuana tar has 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to cancer than tobacco cigarette tar.

While no association between marijuana smoking and cancer was found, the study findings, presented to the American Thoracic Society International Conference this week, did find a 20-fold increase in lung cancer among people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day.

The study was limited to people younger than 60 because those older than that were generally not exposed to marijuana in their youth, when it is most often tried.




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发表于 2007-7-12 11:09:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
关于DCA,问了上海胸科的沈主任,她说不知道此药。从jimmy传达的信息来看,272已进入预批准,应该快了。大家一起努力吧。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-12 21:24:56 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东深圳

我也问广东省院肺科的杨主任,他对DCA也是不太关注,可以理解,毕竟他们的治疗方案都有专门的研究小组在做研究确定,对这些没有经过正式临床使用的治疗,正规医院都不太“感冒”。

对于272,我们在期待,对于DCA,我们在参与!从慵散论坛的病友使用情况看,效果还是相当喜人的。

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发表于 2007-7-17 17:26:59 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国上海
东方,我在“慵散”中看见你购药的帖子了。我想问你这套药共需多少钱?付钱后几天可以到货?这套药具体如何吃法?胸科的沈主任听我介绍后也开始关注这药,我把“慵散”网址给了她。希望能得到她医学上的支持。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-17 20:40:01 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东深圳

小路,我上周在"慵散"里跟里面的一位网友取得联系,让其帮我在美国网站上订购的DCA,二瓶100克(170)加邮费30美元(这种快递较快大约6天到货)共200美元.下面是初夏的介绍http://www.laosafu.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=168900&extra=&page=7我基本是参照她的用法。不过DCA的量是15mg/kg/day,电子称也在淘宝买的100g/0.01g。

听你这么说,那位沈主任还是很不错的,希望她能提供更多的支持。

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 楼主| 发表于 2007-7-17 20:48:47 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东深圳

由于这几天奇迹网在做备案,现在将我妈妈服用DCA的情况给大家介绍下。

14号收到从美国寄来的DCA,当天开始按15mg/kg/day的份量配200ml的水分饭后一小时分两次服用,其他辅助药有:辅酶Q10,硫辛酸、谷胱甘肽、水飞蓟、VE、VC、B1、均按说明的2至3倍饭后服用,复合维生素(善存银片)一日一片。

当天晚上无明显反应。

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