<p><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">2007年11月3日</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"> </font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4"> 今天从上海回来了,可能是自己对这次问诊期望值过高,本以为问诊后爸爸下一步的治疗方向应该会基本明确,事实上,到目前为此还是有很多疑问,对后续治疗方案依旧举棋不定。</font></span></font><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">对自己三天来的问诊记录如下,希望能对网上的病友也能有些许帮助:</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">1、</span></font><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">TNM分期如何?评价化疗方案,化疗几个周期合适?恩度已使用四个周期,有无必要继续?</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">韩:</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">T2N1M?(肝部转移待排除);化疗方案可以,但是一般不首选IP方案;可继续原方案2-4周期。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">陆:</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">T2N2M0,化疗方案不错,恩度不评价,胸科医院正在开展恩度用于小细胞的实验,用不会有坏处,好处有多少也不得知。继续原方案化疗2周期。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">简:做一个</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">ET-CT,排除骨转、肝转后分期为:T2N1M0,化疗方案不换,继续2周期,条件许可恩度继续。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">曹:建议白细胞恢复后坚持再原方案做</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">2周期化疗。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 17.85pt; TEXT-INDENT: -17.85pt; tab-stops: list 18.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 楷体_GB2312; mso-ascii-font-family: 楷体_GB2312;"><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"> </font></span></font><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">2、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">术前及术后化疗前对侧淋巴结肿大,病理显示淋巴无转移,胸部要否放疗?放疗部位?如何预防放射性肺炎?</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></span></font><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">韩:因病理报告检测淋巴无转移,可理解肿大淋巴为无功能性淋巴,理论上可以认为没转移,随访!胸部不建议做放疗,如放疗应在第一、二个周期做,现患者已做了四周期化疗,血管因化疗药物导致缩小,此时再用放射线照射意义不大。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -15pt; mso-char-indent-count: -1.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">陆:肿大淋巴相当可疑,怀疑当地的病理生化检测水平和做</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">ET-CT的水平,认为PET-CT做的质量相当差,建议重新到上海胸科医院做PET-CT进行评估,才能决定下一步治疗方案。怀疑是与非小细胞混合型肺癌,如不重新评估,一定要做胸部放疗(纵膈和右肺门处)再化疗。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -15pt; mso-char-indent-count: -1.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">简:和陆观点基本一致,对</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">CT发现淋巴肿大而病理阴性觉得不可思议,认为这种情况极少见。必须做胸部放疗(纵膈和右肺门处)放疗后再化疗2周期。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -15pt; mso-char-indent-count: -1.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">钱:放疗肺门部位即支气管残端小剂量放疗。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 15pt; TEXT-INDENT: -15pt; mso-char-indent-count: -1.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">吕:胸部放疗(纵膈和右肺门处)放疗。一般不引起放射性肺炎,可用阿米福汀避免放射性肺损伤。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4"> </font></font></span><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">3、<span style="FONT: 7pt "Times New Roman";"><font face="楷体_GB2312">
</font></span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">化疗期间能否用增强免疫力的药物?胸腺肽、白介素或是别的?或是康复期用?</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">支持化疗期间用免疫制剂,可不用避开化疗期间,除韩以外一般认为两者都可用,但建议胸腺肽的稍多。韩教授建议使用方法:化疗前后四天每天注射一支胸腺肽,加强免疫,平时按每周</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">2-3次用即可。胸腺肽(日达仙)副作用极小,他有病人一天用五六支都没关系。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 36pt; TEXT-INDENT: -36pt; tab-stops: list 36.0pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">4、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">全脑预防性照射有无必要?有无副作用最小的仪器或方法?</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">韩:做与不做各有利弊,做可能好一点。化疗完评估达到</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">CR后再做。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">陆:病人要重新评估,无法再建议。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">简:要做全脑照射,小细胞多会发生脑转。局限期和广泛期都有必要做。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">钱:可不做,因小细胞</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">50-60%发生脑转,也有小部分不发生,如都做,那小部分人会吃亏,毕竟影响生活质量,且预防性照射剂量小,也起不了什么作用,建议随访,两月一次,发生问题立刻处理。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">吕:要做全脑照射,</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">80%会发生脑转,照了只有20%发生,且不会有太大副作用。</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt 30pt; TEXT-INDENT: -30pt; mso-char-indent-count: -2.0; mso-char-indent-size: 15.0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">曹:建议全脑照射。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4"> </font></font></span><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">5、</font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">小细胞有无靶向药可偿试?如何看待中药辅助治疗?郭林功</font><span lang="EN-US"><font size="4">?</font><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">曹:恩度就是多靶点的药物,吃点中药可以。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">简:中药不会有太大的辅助作用,郭林功可不练。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; 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</font></span></font></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font size="4">手术部位感觉不适,且手术对应后背偶有钻痛感,为何?</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></span></font><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">观点一致:排除转移,由于手术引起,一般半年左右会好转。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p><font color="#cc3352"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman";"><font size="4">7、绿谷灵芝宝、虫草、燕窝、参一、贞芪胶囊、螺旋藻辅助疗效?</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4">绿谷灵芝宝是假的,虫草燕窝代价太大,性价比低,后三者可以用点。</font><span lang="EN-US"><p><font size="4"></font></p></span></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 15pt; FONT-FAMILY: 楷体_GB2312; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><font color="#cc3352"><font size="4"> </font><p><font size="4"></font></p></font></span></p><p><font size="4"></font></p><p><font face="楷体_GB2312" size="4"></font></p>
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