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后事料理好了,此贴也要封了,谢谢大家

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发表于 2009-9-23 18:46:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
步行者,grace网上最近一篇文章是说脑转移的。我先偷个懒,把原文贴上。但是文中说道,可以用Alimta,就是力比泰。接受治疗的人有经过全放有未经过全放的。我觉得如果没有明显症状,应该不急着全放。我问诊过中山大学附属肿瘤医院的徐光川,广东省人民医院的吴一龙,还有荷兰莱顿医学院的医生Van Kralingen。仅供参考。


Brain metastases from NSCLC is almost a field of its own.  This is because of the relatively high frequency with which metastases appear, the fact that they may return, even after treatment with whole brain radiation therapy (WBRT), and that our chemotherapy has long been considered to be ineffective against them.  In fact, the extent of them as a problem is reflected in the number of thread questions on this subject in the GRACE forum.  At the same time, there has also been work devoted to prophylactic whole brain radiation therapy (WBRT) in selected NSCLC patients considered to be at high risk.  For unknown reasons, adenocarcinomas (ADC) seem to be the most likely to appear in the brain, at times the first/only site outside of the lung.

   For this reason, a recent study of Alimta, published on-line in Lung Cancer, by Bearz and colleagues from several hospitals in Italy, may be of interest. Of a subset of 22 patients with brain metastases who either recurred after WBRT (11 patients) or had never received radiation (11 patients), and then received Alimta (pemetrexed), a remarkable 68% had what the authors called a “cerebral benefit.” Of the 22, 5 had a partial response, 9 had stable disease, while only 7 had progressive disease.

  That being said, the study had several limitations.  First, although half of the 22 had prior WBRT, the authors did not say how each of the 2 groups fared.  The implication is that some of the 14/22 who benefited from Alimta had prior WBRT. Next, it would have been good to see how those few with squamous cell carcinomas (SCC) responded.  In the entire group of 39 patients, only 4 had SCC, a subtype not generally felt to respond well to Alimta.  Finally, this was a small study, with presumably a relatively homogeneous population, and the results may not reflect what might happen elsewhere.  On the other hand, of the 39 patients with brain mets treated with Alimta, the median survival was 10 months, a pretty encouraging result considering what we had historically expected.

   Clearly, more pre-clinical work needs to be done to determine the factors leading to central nervous system penetration by this drug.  However, since we are loath to re-radiate the brain in such patients, this may be a strong alternative for those who progress after prior radiation.  Also, since these patients are often somewhat frail, and Alimta is often quite well tolerated, the drug is appealing (it is already approved as second-line and maintenance chemotherapy as a single agent).  Finally, in patients with locally advanced disease receiving combined radiation and chemotherapy, one might consider Alimta to go along with a platinum, at least in those with ADCs.

   We hope to see further work on this subject, since it certainly represents an unmet need in lung cancer management.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-23 18:51:55 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国福建福州
谢谢楼上的,这也是一条思路,前提是,在易有效的情况下,脑继续变大,但是还没有出现症状
那么可以尝试一边吃易一边化看看是否入脑
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发表于 2009-9-23 19:27:37 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 澳大利亚
可恶的癌阿!!!!

希望你妈妈对易有效。

我感觉脑部要排除的可能性大概不会很大,肋骨倒是有可能不是吧。
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发表于 2009-9-23 19:53:37 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
步行者,你的意思是一边吃易瑞沙一边打力比泰化疗?

还是考虑尝试特罗凯?我隐约记得特罗凯对脑部也挺有效的。是这样子的吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-23 22:05:07 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国福建福州
肋骨可能不是,脑肯定是了
只是因为大意吃易前没有查MR
所以不知道这个脑转是什么时候出现
到底易对其有没有效果
现在只能再观察了,有症状马上就处理
没有一个月后再复查
如果易有效,而脑继续进展,但是还没有出现症状,那么也有考虑用力比泰化,同时不停易
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发表于 2009-9-24 13:38:27 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 加拿大
我的一个病友曾用过力比泰单药不停易,有效。支修益开的方案,而且只用了一瓶(进口的)不是一瓶半。两次化疗CEA由40多降到5以内。
谢谢短内回复!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-9-24 14:00:03 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国福建福州
这个方案我也会考虑
前提是脑不能出现症状
不然的话就没有办法尝试了
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发表于 2009-9-24 15:48:49 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国辽宁鞍山
不知道用什么样的话来安慰你了,你的好人好心,会有回报的,祝你母亲在你的照料下生活质量很好,
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