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脑转胸膜转肺内转两年,易耐药+特无效+力减效,出现骨转,路在何方?

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-18 01:14:58 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东广州
妈妈放疗5次,最痛的地方有所舒缓,但其他没有放疗的位置依然疼痛且疼痛加剧了,甚至出现了新的疼痛区域,肩颈部位,唑来膦酸似乎没有起到什么抑制性的作用。此时如果继续只是进行姑息性的止痛放疗,不对癌细胞进行控制的话,后果不堪设想吧?

我是否应该在放疗的同时,尝试上阿瓦斯汀呢?答案应该是yes的,只是真的担心妈妈的身体是否能承受得了。但如果要熬到放疗结束才去进行下一步的治疗,会否为时已晚?

我知道我顾虑的太多了,但我真的希望能得到一点提示和建议,或者只是一支强心针。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-18 01:50:23 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东广州
刚刚看到一篇资料,提到放疗和阿瓦同时使用会增加患上气管食管瘘的机会,甚至是两者前后分开使用也会有此风险,这篇资料立马让我冰封了现在上阿瓦的念头。
真的是这样吗?那么不就意味这两者是几乎不能并存的?但我相信现实中两者都做过的病人,应该不少吧?
希望经历过阿瓦和放疗的病友,能说一说经历和经验,给后者一点指导,谢谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-18 01:55:37 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东广州
本帖最后由 chris_mac 于 2011-7-18 01:56 编辑

附上资料原文,是来自cancergrace.org上一个医生对病人的咨询回复。

I have a treatment plan in place with Cisplatin/Gemzar.  The last time I received this regimen, I had a great response with limited side effects, but Avastin was included in the combo (2006).  My onc feels there is some question about adding Avastin to the mix this time.  I think because the of the location of the tumor which is pressing into the esophagus and also because of  the max dosage of radiation I have received to that area.  What are the parameters of prescribing Avastin?  I did take it as a single agent at half dose in 2009 because of trouble with headaches and HBP.  It kept things stable for over a year, but stopped because I needed a break and began to see gradual progression within a couple of months.
—— Myrtle

Another concern is that we have seen a concerning frequency of complications  when avastin and chest radiation are given at the same time, and perhaps even when they're given sequentially.  The leading concern is a tracheo-esophageal fistula, which is a hole that connects the airway (trachea) to the esophagus, both running alongside of each other through the middle of the chest.  This can be a fatal complication and has been seen more commonly when avastin is given along with chest radiation.  It's certainly something to be aware of and consider when going through the potential risks and benefits of adding chest radiation for someone still getting, and maybe even just with a history of getting, avastin.
There isn't a clear contraindication based on location or prior radiation, but that doesn't mean it's proven to be totally safe.  Many lung cancer specialists and some general oncologists have become increasingly wary about combining significant chest radiation with Avastin (bevacizumab), especially concurrently but even possibly sequentially, due to an observation of more tracheoesophageal fistulas.  I would be doubly wary in someone who had received more than a standard amount of radiation to the chest.  
Another issue is that there is no evidence of any benefit for Avastin being repeated in someone who has received and progressed on it at any time in the past.  The only place where it has really been proven to be effective (and even then, only improving survival in one of the two large studies) has been as first line therapy in combination with chemotherapy in treatment-naive patients.
—— Dr. West
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发表于 2011-7-18 10:22:39 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 澳大利亚
经历了两年的治疗,愈加明白胸部放疗害处巨大。要尽可能避免!
我实在想不明白为什么当时给我们用了这么多的放疗,我们是腺癌又不是鳞癌小细胞。包括省医的权威吴,也是让我们大剂量放疗。
放疗只能缩小病灶,又不是根治。如果化疗和靶向有效,同样能缩小病灶而且效果更好,副作用更小。为什么上放疗呢??除非紧急或别无他法(比如影响到食道吞咽或一些骨放),不要放疗。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-18 11:53:33 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东广州
Never_Land 发表于 2011-7-18 10:22
经历了两年的治疗,愈加明白胸部放疗害处巨大。要尽可能避免!
我实在想不明白为什么当时给我们用了这么多 ...

我们做的是骨放疗,作为姑息性的止痛手段。不是对肺部的放疗,我从来就没有打算要对我妈妈的肺部做放疗,因为我一直觉得对肺部进行放疗,后果太得不偿失了。
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发表于 2011-7-18 12:38:47 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国湖北宜昌
Never_Land 发表于 2011-7-18 10:22
经历了两年的治疗,愈加明白胸部放疗害处巨大。要尽可能避免!
我实在想不明白为什么当时给我们用了这么多 ...

医生前些时让我爸肺部放疗,说我爸肺部病灶大,要弄小一点,化疗才有作用,我始终没同意,怕的就是副作用。也不知这么做是对还是错。
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发表于 2011-7-18 12:40:00 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国湖北宜昌
阿瓦多少钱?你们在哪里弄的?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-7-18 13:14:59 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国广东广州
渴望阳光 发表于 2011-7-18 12:40
阿瓦多少钱?你们在哪里弄的?

医院。自买的药医院不给打。。。
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